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Although not its main purpose, this paper takes issue with certain criticisms of the "Goals of Engineering Education" report. The main thrust of this paper is, assuming that the general goals are sufficiently well established within the minds of most engineering educators, to develop specific methods for improving education rather than to further refine and distill our definitions. Two specific suggestions are offered in this paper: one in the area of professional education and one in the area of general liberal studies. These are not completely definitive and it is hoped that this paper will serve to stimulate further dialog in the pages of this TRANSACTIONS relating to many aspects of engineering education.